Captain Obvious

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  11-15 WT- Drinking before meetings

  by Absalom in

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  to be holy, we must weigh the scriptures carefully and do what god asks of us.

  consider aarons sons nadab and abihu, who were executed for offering unauthorized fire, perhaps while inebriated.

  (lev.

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  Captain Obvious

  I can hardly sit through a meeting without a nice buzz on anyway so... Nice of them to accomodate me!
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  Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?

  by minimus in

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  i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.

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  Non-believer. I find belief in something so clearly man-made to be impossible for me.

  If the Judeo-Christian god is real, and the bible is true, then the bible shows him not worthy of reverence or worship. Even if Yahweh were real and really could offer everlasting life, I wouldn't want it under his rule or by his hand.
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  how to survive a three day assembly?

  by purrpurr in

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  hi i have to go to one of these soon.

  i find it difficult enough to sit through a meeting knowing what i now know.

  how to survive a whole three days???!!!

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  NoMoreHustle, just zone out. Play tunes in your head. Your spouse may just be worried about how others sitting near you will react. That was me last year, so much lies and hate in the talks. Couldn't do it, wifey was pissed. Wanted to storm out of there, but wanted to listen to be able to rant about it later. Terrible.

  SO: for whom was this the last RC they will ever attend? I said that last year and went again this year so... This one was the last one for me.

  Who's with me?
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  Hubby's tempted to go back

  by jgnat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today he kept bumping in to (or rather dodging and weaving from) fellow witnesses.

  he's talking about returning but can't figure out a way to do it without enduring a fair amount of humiliation.

  i did not panic.

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  Captain Obvious

  I think Aunt Fancy is on to something. The ONLY thing that really helps an ex-JW drop the feelings of guilt is to do more research. It's ok that he feels and doesn't think, let him read about the needless hurt and pain the WT has caused people. Let him read at least the part of CoC that talks about the Mexico/Malawi deal. Only a cold hearted bastard couldn't be moved by that.

  This brings out a very important point for all of us with loved ones still in. If they just happen to quit meetings, fade away without doing their proper research and finding solid ground for their doubts and issues... They are easily dragged back either by "encouragement" (guilt) from family/friends or by something they see in world events that makes them panick. Look at how much the meeting attendance and baptisms spiked in the year following 9/11.

  When we want someone out, we can't be happy simply to see them quit going to meetings. Brain washing goes MUCH deeper than that, and can be re-ignited anytime.
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  Have you ever given CoC to a JW to read? Or any other "red pill" book?

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.

  she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  it seems to be the best red pill out there.

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  Captain Obvious

  Thanks Phaedra and Baalamsass.

  I agree, one needs to be "ripe" before approaching the book. Personally I think she just might be. She barely had a cult personality to begin wih, and is by no means studious or a "true believer." For a good while she would comment that I'm not "like that" when a speaker would spout BS about apostates from the platform. If the book were sarcastic or angry at all she would repulse at it.

  I'll give it to her when it shows up and see how it goes. She has a few days off this week, hope she takes a look. Will report back on how it goes.
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  Would You Convert to Islam to Avoid getting Your Head Chopped Off? Atheist to Polytheist, what say you?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would you convert to islam if they were holding your head on a ax block, ready to swing the ax or sword to cut your head off?

  we know there are people who died for their political and spiritual values, would you convert to islam to avoid death?

  for atheists, can you justify conversion to preserve life since there is no life after death?

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  Sure why not, I can still sit through a whole meeting without my eyes rolling out of my head.
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  the end did come???

  by Crazyguy in

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  i believe after russel died that rutherford about russell's perdiction of armageddon in 1914-15 said that the end did come and now millions now living will not die.

  has anyone read how rutherford explained or his reasoning for the end did come?.

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  That didnt officially happen until 1943. Even in 1935 during Rutherford's famous speech about adopting the name "jehovahs witnesses" he spoke about gods kingdom having been established for so many years already.
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  JWs: not creationists but believe in creation...

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been having a bit of an email exchange with elder dad and i need some advice.

  i thought i was getting through to him but i think my criticism and tone became a bit too strident in my last email and now he thinks that i am attacking him personally.

  i think he has dismissed everything i said because he perceived me as 'overally critical, and rude.. .

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  No, he was clutching at semantic straws. Your pointing it out showed your upper hand.

  All you can hope for is that you planted a seed. It is just a trivial thing for sure, but every JW is quite invested I the JWs being right about EVERYTHING. To be wrong without the FDS saying so would show a lack of holy guidance.

  You may have pissed him off, and you definitely attacked his cult personality which is a huge no-no. Don't expect to get anywhere with this approach. If you were about to speak like this without him screaming and runnign away, you may be able to plant more seeds without activating his cult persona.
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  Have you ever given CoC to a JW to read? Or any other "red pill" book?

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.

  she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  it seems to be the best red pill out there.

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  OnTheWayOut: you've been on the forum since '06.. Have you been able to make any progress? How did family and your wife react when you quit going to meetings?
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  BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this has been dished over before, but when i was doing some research i discovered a couple of interesting points.

  as far as i can find, there is only one wt article that implies that jw men should not have beards.

  *** w75 8/15 pp.

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  Captain Obvious

  Aww c'mon. Didn't the mythical Jesus character have an awesome beard?

  Come to think of it, I haven't shaved in weeks. I prefer to keep a good 2 weeks of growth on at least. I only shave when I pretend to go to the meeting!